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With final cuts days away, the Giants find themselves in a precarious position. Injuries have thrown the availability of several key players into question and providing adequate depth to remedy the situation may force the team to cut players that deserve to stay.
To help untangle the mess, I’ll be posting installments that break down the depth at each position group over the next week. Today we continue with the backup QB situation.
For the first time since 2004, the Giants have a roster issue at quarterback. Ever since Eli was moved ahead of veteran Kurt Warner, this particular area was not given much attention in terms of competition.
For the past two years, David Carr was entrenched as the one and only backup. A former first overall pick, Carr had significant starting experience under his belt. Carr has since left the team to pursue a battle for the starting job in San Francisco (he is currently losing to Alex Smith).
Carr’s departure was a disappointment to the front office, as they tried to lure him back into the fold. The true blow however, was the organization’s failure to procure a veteran backup of the same caliber.
Jim Sorgi, who spent several years backing up Peyton Manning, was the free agent New York chose to sign. The fact that he was Peyton’s understudy may seem like a selling point, but it isn’t. Peyton does not often miss time. The Colt superstar is currently second on the list of active QBs with the most consecutive starts.
Tagged Eli Manning, Jim Sorgi, Kerry Collins, Peyton Manning, Rhett Bomar |
QB Jim Sorgi intends to return in time for the September 2nd game against New England.
Ralph Vacchiano reports that Sorgi plans to return to practice Monday, less than five days before the Giants will reduce the roster by 22 players.
Sorgi’s roster spot is likely still intact, however his injury has sidelined him long enough for speculation to swirl and for Rhett Bomar to get in a full game’s worth of field time.
The way things look at the moment, the Giants will keep three QBs should Bomar be retained. Whether or not Sorgi is one of the three depends on his ability to bounce back from injury.
Tagged Jim Sorgi, Rhett Bomar |
A 7 point loss?…we’ll take it. This was no ordinary game for the Giants. No the game didn’t count. However, meaningless or not, the Giants found themselves with their back to the wall in the early month of August.
A 24-17 defeat is not exactly disappointing when you consider the circumstances. New York played the entire game with a third string QB. How many times have you witnessed a third string QB even play a series at the pro level, let alone an entire game?
That said, here’s what we learned:
-Rhett Bomar had an oppurtunity to solidify a roster spot and perhaps the nod for immediate backup to Manning. He struggled tonight and despite some good plays, including an impressive deep toss to Steve Smith in tight coverage, Bomar did not play up to par. He seemed to struggle more agasint Pittsburgh’s reserve players and was unable to keep a critical pass to Tim Brown in bounds on the final drive. In a regular season game, his play would be unnaceptable.
I still expect a veteran QB to be brought in after final cuts. The Giants waited on two major free agent signings this year (Keith Bulluck and ShawnAndrews). Just because they didn’t look to make a deal this week, don’t overlook the possiblity of a veteran presence being added.
Even if Jim Sorgi is healthy by Week 1, the fact remains that he is a veteran with very limited “hands on” experience. Bomar is a young player with very little experience period.
If Kerry Collins is cut by the Titans, the Giants will likely be interested.
-Victur Cruz was unable to match his explosive first game. His single catch for 10 yards coupled with his botched punt returns likely didn’t wow the coaching staff. He’s a work in progress but he is probably still in good shape roster wise.
Sinorice Moss was barely used tonight (if at all). Regadless of Moss, Cruz has shown the same amount if not more potential that Moss has in a fifth of the time. The Giants want to see what the young man can do. There is no sense in cutting him, only to see him wind up with another team as a main offensive weapon (see Ryan Grant, Packers 2007).
There are two other threats to Cruz’s claim for the final WR spot. Rutgers alum Tim Brown had a nice catch towards the end of the game. Unfortunately, that catch came on the same throw mentioned earlier by Bomar. The ball sailed too close to the sidelines for anyone to haul in with both feet in. Brown is likely headed to the practice squad. His main selling point this training camp was his return game prowess. He hasn’t been used thus far in a game situation as a return man though. The Giants like him and if he clears waivers they’ll have an oppurtunity to keep him.
Travis Beckum is also an indirect challenge to Cruz’s spot. Beckum is techinically a TE. However, he has promise as a slot receiver. He also showe some nice blocking ability tonight. despite being undersized. If the Giants choose to bring in 3 true TE’s and Beckum, Cruz might run into problems. This isn’t likely though. Scott Chandler isn’t making noise.
-DJ Ware was carted off the field waving and smiling to the fans. In all seriousness, that may have been because he was completely out of it. The Giants confirmed that Ware did in fact suffer anotehr concussion tonight. Ware makes Sinorice Moss looks like a pictures of health. He simply can’t stay off the injury report. For this reason, and the fact that he has now suffered multiple concussions, the Giants may have to part ways with him (or at least place him on IR). Aaron Ross’s big return tonight could help him solidify a return job, which would lessen the need for Ware on the roster. That said, Ross may see time as a starter this year and at the very least he’d be the nickel corner. Andre Brown will have to nail down the other return job for the Giants to feel comfortable.
-The defensive line made a statement on the opening drives. Justin Tuck and Osi Umenyiora had a good night and made plays in the backfield. Chris Canty got decent pressure, as did Rocky Bernard. Bernard helped the Giants escape the first half with a goal line stand when he laid on top of the Steeler ball carrier an extra few seconds to keep the click winding down to 0:00.
Interestingly enough, Jay Alford entered the game after Linval Joseph. It would appear that the Orange, NJ native is now 5th on the depth chart at DT. Jason Pierre-Paul flashed potential tonight, but left the crowd wanting more. He let a sure sack slip through his grasp.
-Kenny Phillips and Keith Bulluck played 1 series during the first half. Bulluck, making his Giants debut was in on a tackle deep in the redzone. Phillips looked good after nearly a year away. The Giants hope that both him and Antrel Rolle become a staple tandem in the backfield for years to come. Both players have enormous potential and both players are from the legendary U.
Tagged Aaron Ross, Andrew Brown, Antrel Rolle, DJ Ware, Jason Pierre-Paul, Jim Sorgi, Justin Tuck, Keith Bulluck, Kenny Phillips, Linval Joseph, Osi Umenyiora, Rhett Bomar, Rocky Bernard, Sinorice Moss, Steve Smith, Tim Brown, Travis Beckum, Victor Cruz |
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Quarterback Jim Sorgi came to the New York Giants in the off season with a unique tie to the franchise. Sorgi, drafted in 2004 by the Colts in the sixth round out of Wisconsin has been backing up a Manning his entire career. It felt good to have Sorgi in Giants camp; however, after NY Giants star quarterback Eli Manning left the game in the 2nd quarter with a 3 inch laceration to the forehead… Jim Sorgi looked uncomfortable until he found his groove with undrafted wide receiver, Victor Cruz.
It’s to be expected that his timing might be off coming in cold off the sidelines, but that is no excuse for poor mechanics and bad clock management. Bringing in Sorgi was an easy decision for NY Giants GM Jerry Reese as the coaching staff agreed that the connection between Sorgi and the Manning brothers would breed a comfort zone.
It is going to take some time for Sorgi to learn the offense and get comfortable with his new role, but watching Sorgi throw off his back foot time and time again was unsettling during his first few series. But then something happened!
The practice tandem of Jim Sorgi and Victor Cruz(UMass) caught fire…as Jim Sorgi hooked up with Cruz for two long “bomb” touchdowns. Now that we know Jim Sorgi can get the job done after he warms up…the bigger question is where do you find a slot for Victor Cruz.
He deserves it.
Tagged David Carr, Eli Manning, Jerry Reese, Jim Sorgi, New York Giants, Peyton Manning, Victor Cruz |
-Victor Cruz. 3 TD’s? Granted they came agaisnt backups or lower, but the young receiver still showed valuable ball handeling skills and at least two of his big catches came in tight coverage. Cruz is also the first player to haul in 3 TDs in a single pre-season game since T.O. in 1998. If Moss beats him out… well frankly it just won’t happen.
- Chase Blackburn has a sprained knee. Clearly we won’t see him again before the regular season, if we see him at all. The linebacking corps is crowded. As good as Blackburn has been for New York over the past five years, if he can’t contribute for a month or two he might be headed towards the chopping block.
-Speaking of Blackburn, Gerris Wikinson, showed signs of life. Not good for a laid up linebacker.
-Jim Sorgi has a cannon and Rhett Bomar has wheels. The Giants will probably be forced to cut at least one and early on it seemed that Sorgi was a fish out of water without a clipboard in his hand. His poor play was likely a result of a struggling offensive line. His play swiftly picked up when Cruz and Hagan took the field. Sorgi is still the favorite to be the backup QB after showing marked improvement throughout the second half.
-DJ Ware had a decent showing against non 3rd stringers for the first time ever. Maybe Andre Brown isn’t entrenched at number 3.
-Jason Pierre-Paul seems to have come a long way from collapsing at his first pro practice back in May. 1 sack later, I am very interested to see how he factors in to the regular season attack this year.
Tagged Chase Blackburn, DJ Ware, Jason Pierre-Paul, Jim Sorgi, Victor Cruz |
Giants’ new backup QB Jim Sorgi figures to get the lion’s share of the snaps on Monday’s preseason opener vs the Jets at the New Meadowlands.
Don’t think for one second that Sorgi, who was an Indianapolis Colt for the past six seasons, is worried. He is no stranger to Rex Ryan and his tactics. It’s not as if the Jets have been operating in a vacuum, either.
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Jim Sorgi has plenty of experience backing up a Manning. Sorgi was Peyton Manning’s backup for six seasons in Indianapolis before signing with the Giants this offseason to be Eli’s backup. He spoke to the Star-Ledger about playing for the Giants and again working with a Manning. Sorgi talked about the transition from Indianapolis to New York.
“The playbook is similar in certain ways. The terminology, the lingo is different,” Sorgi said. ”That’s the hardest part: trying to learn how to call everything. And trying not to revert [back to] what you did for six years.
“You can definitely get a feel that this team likes to be physical. Offensively they like to run the ball and play-action pass. And defensively they like to pound [you]. And that’s a little different than what the Colts were. The Colts were a little bit more finesse with the drop-back passing game. It’s a different scheme, a change for me, but I think I’m going to enjoy being in it.”
Sorgi also said that, as expected, Eli and Peyton are very similar, though he did point out that he was with Peyton for six years and has only been with Eli for three months.
“You can tell they’re brothers,” he said. ”They prepare. They’re very intense watching film and trying to get better every day. There are not too many differences. They’re both pranksters off the field, which a lot of people don’t get to see.”
Christmas Anyone?
Before you know it these 90-degree days will be a thing of the past, and that means it’s never too early to think ahead to Christmas. And this Christmas you’ll have the opportunity to welcome Eli Manning into your home. Okay so maybe the quarterback won’t actually visit your home, but you will be able to own a keepsake ornament of No. 10 compliments of Hallmark. Honestly, how often do you get the opportunity to spend Christmas with a football legend?
John Mara on Bob Sheppard
“Bob Sheppard was the most distinguished and dignified voice in all of professional sports. We are very proud of the fact that he was the voice of the Giants for so many years. Bob was a true gentleman and the consummate professional. There will never be another one like him.”
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The Giants have signed QB Jim Sorgi, according to Ralph Vacchiano of the NY Daily News. Sorgi will contend for the backup QB job made available when David Carr signed with the 49ers.
Sorgi is best known for being Peyton Manning’s long-time backup. In his quest to collect ‘em all, he now adds Eli to his personal Manning collection. Up next is Cooper.
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